I've written something about it in Who Teaches Whom. I did honestly try to give it my most charitable interpretation but at some point in the next few days I expect I'll post something else too. I do feel that if I want anyone who agrees with the review to listen to me I can't point out its worst and most damaging flaws, which hurts somewhat.
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Date: 2009-06-18 09:22 pm (UTC)But I didn't say that I object to people expressing minority opinions, or being nervous about doing that, or expressing nerves about doing that. That all seems to me to be perfectly reasonable. What I was alarmed by is the very particular use of language - "tone" and "hysteria" - which have been used over and over again in discussions like RaceFail and which carry a particular baggage.
I ask because I think the point of Derailing for Dummies and How To Suppress Discussions of Racism is that they put a responsibility onto members of the dominant group to accept a subordinate position in that conversation, and to consider very carefully whether any point of disagreement is a genuine point of disagreement, or whether it is a function of privilege and a tactic to silence the minority group. In that context, the demand by the majority group that a minority group moderate its tone is part and parcel of the dominant group's ability to silence the minority.
What I was asking is whether
I made the comparison with cyclists and vegetarians because they are groups where I belong to the minority (well, sort of, in the latter case!), and yes, I do think the rules are made by a non-cycling majority. But I don't think that puts an onus on non-cyclists to listen and accept what I have to say even if I express it angrily or sarcastically or passionately. I think that's a discussion where we meet as equals - even if I think I'm better informed than they are - and where it's my job to convince them using whatever rhetorical devices are at my disposal. In that context, the way I moderate my tone isn't a function of oppression, it's a function of language and communication. It's frustrating, and sometimes upsetting, but it's not oppression. Of course we moderate our register for different audiences: that only becomes oppressive in the context of a wider discrimination, in my opinion.
I think it's really important to preserve that distinction. It's really important to preserve the particularity of discussions in which one group is systematically and institutionally disadvantaged to their great detriment, and also to preserve access to whatever rhetorical devices are appropriate within the mutually-agreed etiquette of the conversation when neither group is institutionally disadvantaged by the other. If you don't agree which is the case, how you can decide which set of conventions you're using?
So that's where I'm coming from. If that wasn't at all what
I'm sorry if that makes you feel unsafe talking to me. But I have also been in your company when you've said something dismissive about school or schooling and felt completely unable to answer you. It's not a topic on which I feel very safe around you either, and I don't really know how to handle that.
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Date: 2009-06-18 09:23 pm (UTC)