Hairy legs
May. 9th, 2008 12:12 amIt's summer! Out come skirts! And ankles.
It's easy to be feministy about my legs in winter, but in summer, or when I have bad PMS, I get all nnnnn about them. I don't like shaved legs, I don't like the way they feel, I hate the way my stubble grows faster than fairies faster than witches, I hate the pain of waxing, I hate the stinging of swimming after waxing, I hate that none of it is free, hate hate hate.
But in summer - or when I'm ovulating - I feel all frumpy and unfeminine and hairy.
It's easy to be feministy about my legs in winter, but in summer, or when I have bad PMS, I get all nnnnn about them. I don't like shaved legs, I don't like the way they feel, I hate the way my stubble grows faster than fairies faster than witches, I hate the pain of waxing, I hate the stinging of swimming after waxing, I hate that none of it is free, hate hate hate.
But in summer - or when I'm ovulating - I feel all frumpy and unfeminine and hairy.
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Date: 2008-05-09 12:11 am (UTC)I agree with you that I don't like the way shaved legs feel - or *look*.
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Date: 2008-05-09 05:43 am (UTC)Oh, wait.
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Date: 2008-05-12 03:50 am (UTC)For me it's about sensitivity, so I also pluck Elswhere from time to time.
Also for me, but I know this is true of many ofthers: it hurts less each time when done fairly regularly.
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Date: 2008-05-09 03:42 pm (UTC)I literally daren't go out with hairy legs on display. I just can't make myself do it. :0(.
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Date: 2008-05-09 11:02 am (UTC)It hasn't happened since I've been an adult, but then I haven't ventured out with visibly completely unshaven legs for years now. Imperfectly-shaven, yes, but even then I feel terribly self-conscious.
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Date: 2008-05-09 02:24 pm (UTC)I was taught as a child that it's rude to comment on a person's appearance (except possibly to discreetly mention they have ketchup on their nose or something similar) other than positively.
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Date: 2008-05-09 04:34 am (UTC)When I didn't do anything to mine for most of a year, I was disappointed that they didn't end up looking uniformly hairy like men's legs. Instead I had long black hairs with lots of white skin visible, not a continuous pelt, and I didn't like the look of it.
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Date: 2008-05-09 06:29 am (UTC)Shaving I hate because I have stubble from the moment the blade touches my leg, even if I use one of those mens razors designed to cut wire wool with several hundred blades. Creams I hate because they're even less effective and leave me feeling like I've just poured a foul-smelling caustic cream on my legs. Oh hang on, I have. Awful, soapy feeling to the skin.
The main problem with the waxing for me - aside from it being sticky, which is mostly a cause of flail while doing the, er, more foldy bits, is that it tears off what hint of a tan I've managed to obtain.
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Date: 2008-05-09 06:57 am (UTC)A couple of years ago I stopped dehairing (legs & underarms) altogether for about 18 months, because I'd always said "yes, dehairing, patriarchy, but actually I just prefer them hairfree". And I wanted to find out whether that was actually *true*.
Which it is, sort of, but only because it makes me uncomfortable to stand out against the expectations of hair-free women. (I'm very dark-haired, so my leg hair *really* shows.) I finally gave up a while after getting yelled at on the street by some kids :-/
The upside was that I have become more relaxed about a bit of hair & don't bother shaving/depilating all that often. The sort-of upside is that I'm clearer now that my comfort levels *are* partly dictated by existing in a patriarchal society (I mean, obviously that sucks in various ways, but I prefer to be *aware* of these things).
It does bother me quite a lot.
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Date: 2008-05-09 03:45 pm (UTC)I suppose I should go and find out if a salwaar kameez would be cultural appropriation, because that would solve everything. Pretty, summery clothes and no leg showing.
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Date: 2008-05-09 08:49 am (UTC)Admittedly mine are hairy because I'm lazy more than because I'm a feminist :-)
If you're more comfortable with non-hairy legs, fair enough, but if it's a question of what other people think you look like, provided you're not flashing, it's really none of their business. Bollocks to 'em.
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Date: 2008-05-09 06:42 pm (UTC)I didn't mesn to imply that there's anything wrong with depilating the legs if that's what you want to do, mind.
I'd consider it bad manners for other folk to comment on same, much less to give flak for it, but mileages vary, of course.
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Date: 2008-05-09 11:45 pm (UTC)I just feel sad about not daring to.
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Date: 2008-05-10 09:06 am (UTC)Perhaps you'll find, as I have, that as you get older, such things bother you less. I'm far more bolshie and rebellious now than I was when I was a teenager :-)
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Date: 2008-05-10 08:44 pm (UTC)Two options:
Lack of body hair is associated with childhood. In our patriarchal society women are expected in certain ways to remain child-like, eg not knowing about politics or money, not getting wrinkles or saggy breasts. The body hair issue is all about this infantilisation.
Lack of hair is associated with sensitivity - your fingertips, inner forearms, earlobes and so on. In our patriarchal society women are expected to be more tender and sensitive - and, indeed, do generally have less body hair - than men so the less body hair a woman has the more feminine she is perceived to be.
I prefer the second one as I think it makes it easier to assuage Feminist Guilt. ;-)
Mind you, I haven't actually dehaired anywhere since reading it. I just wear trousers or longish skirts and pretend it's not happening. Although, oddly enough, I don't have a problem going swimming. Admittedly most of our swimming is at a private health club, but Centerparcs and Haven Holidays didn't bother me either. Hmm.
[Fine but Very Definite hairs on very pale (redhead's) skin]
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Date: 2008-05-09 09:16 am (UTC)I use those Infinity shavers that are a razor embedded inside a block of soap-like substance that lubricates your skin as you shave. Not having to faff about with messy creams means that it takes all of 20 seconds per leg, standing right there in the shower - so a top-up every other day is not a huge drain on my time.
The best way I've found to avoid chicken skin is to exfoliate before shaving and disinfect with rubbing alcohol after, then immediately use lots of lotion to put the moisture back into the delicate layer of new skin you've exposed.
All very girly I know, but isn't it as much or less as men have to put up with every morning? I know not all of them shave, but the majority do, and also get haircuts much more often than we have to.
Am I a victim?
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Date: 2008-05-09 02:53 pm (UTC)I'm not the one you asked, but I wouldn't say so, since you shave your legs for your own pleasure. And if you're not telling women who don't shave that they are deficient, you're not a perpetrator either.
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Date: 2008-05-09 04:43 pm (UTC)Also, I hate the feeling of freshly-shaved legs.
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Date: 2008-05-10 02:58 am (UTC)But then sometimes I'll notice some cute dress that would be just right if I had the right strappy sandals and were bare of leghair.
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Date: 2008-05-10 07:53 am (UTC)Elaine xx
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Date: 2008-05-11 08:09 am (UTC)I generally live in trousers or long skirts, in order not to need to shave. On the rare occasion I have to 'go smart', then I will shave, as I cant bear the feeling of leg hairs caught in tights. Underarm hair is a greater problem, as I feel it is difficult to have a quick freshen up while out during the day, so likely to be a smelly old so and so.
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Date: 2008-05-12 03:46 am (UTC)Fortunately, they have gone grey (unlike most of my other head hair), so I get rid of them about once a week or so.
I don't shave
Date: 2008-05-11 10:38 pm (UTC)I might give them a trim now they're out for the summer - have been in skirts and shorts all week - but then again, I might not.
Underarms I trim occasionally in the summer, to feel less sweaty. But again, I refuse to remove it.
I'm trying not to think about the hairy chin stage ;-)